psychometrics
What is thriving?: Quantifiers
The dime on the photocopier Kahneman won the Nobel for proving people are terrible at knowing what makes them happy. A person who found a dime rates their life higher. Neither person notices the dime. He didn’t conclude happiness was unmeasurable.... Can someone actually have any Teal if they score 0% Orange, Amber, Red, and Magenta? Going through the scores of the Better Political Conversations quiz is fascinating. (reference: https://www.guidedtrack.com/programs/we0q1pq/run)
Now, this very well could have been someone running an experiment to test the scoring, or to try to get a sense of a friend or family member, but they did give a name where a lot of people leave that blank.
Their scores are:
Teal 55%
Green 45%
Orange 0%
Amber 0%
Red 0%
Magenta 0%Is it at all possible that someone could select every single response at Orange, Amber, Red, and Magenta as
False, wrong, or just doesn’t make sense
and have any actual Teal?Also interesting, I got an email from someone who thinks of himself as primarily Orange, but was surprised that his quiz results came out 0% Orange. He referenced his Meyers-Briggs results as a reference in support. Utterly fascinated, I’ve asked him to let me know what correlation he sees between the Integral levels and Meyers-Briggs, and I’ve asked him what statements at Orange would have had his quiz results come out accurate for him.
Each time I make a significant edit in the content of the project I make a note of the change in the google sheet where I’m keeping track of scores. Here are the averages of the currently 75 scores:
Amber 26%
Green 25%
Teal 21%
Red 12%
Orange 11%
Magenta 5%One blatant pattern I’m seeing is that high Green scores ALWAYS pair with a high score in Amber, and that people who have that pairing always score exceedingly low in Red and quite low in Orange.
Tech guy thinks it’s possible! I just did a manual test drive of this teal-adjusted scoring system with the results of 18 people I know, and here’s the average: Average of original 18 scores: Teal 26% Amber 25% Green 24% Red 12% Orange 10% Magenta 6% Average of same 18... Can someone actually have any Teal if they score 0% Orange, Amber, Red, and Magenta? Going through the scores of the Better Political Conversations quiz is fascinating. (reference: https://www.guidedtrack.com/programs/we0q1pq/run)
Now, this very well could have been someone running an experiment to test the scoring, or to try to get a sense of a friend or family member, but they did give a name where a lot of people leave that blank.
Their scores are:
Teal 55%
Green 45%
Orange 0%
Amber 0%
Red 0%
Magenta 0%Is it at all possible that someone could select every single response at Orange, Amber, Red, and Magenta as
False, wrong, or just doesn’t make sense
and have any actual Teal?Also interesting, I got an email from someone who thinks of himself as primarily Orange, but was surprised that his quiz results came out 0% Orange. He referenced his Meyers-Briggs results as a reference in support. Utterly fascinated, I’ve asked him to let me know what correlation he sees between the Integral levels and Meyers-Briggs, and I’ve asked him what statements at Orange would have had his quiz results come out accurate for him.
Each time I make a significant edit in the content of the project I make a note of the change in the google sheet where I’m keeping track of scores. Here are the averages of the currently 75 scores:
Amber 26%
Green 25%
Teal 21%
Red 12%
Orange 11%
Magenta 5%One blatant pattern I’m seeing is that high Green scores ALWAYS pair with a high score in Amber, and that people who have that pairing always score exceedingly low in Red and quite low in Orange.
I just test drove a version of this scoring system on my own results, and it’s a MASSIVE difference. What I did was every color I selected as "false, wrong, or just doesn’t make sense" I docked 3 points off the Teal answer for that question (the max points Teal can get on any... The Relateful Company should embrace more job titles. We’re under-appreciating orange.
We’ve included the green critiques, like the classic:
What gets measured gets managed — even when it’s pointless to measure and manage it, and even if it harms the purpose of the organisation to do so
- V. F. Ridgway, 1956But we need to embrace more healthy competition, striving for excellence, even rankings.
one way we can do this is to make more liberal use of titles, and brag on people. @Valerie Daniel is the MANAGING DIRECTOR, and we should have her listed as such in emails and things
What else is healthy orange and how can we transclude it?
What do we already do that is already healthy orange?I love you posting on here. I can get overwhelmed because your arguments and opinions are complex and richly layered with personal insight, emotional reveals, expertise from experience, and academic insight, and I want to "do right" by them—i think it’d be easy to overlook the... The Relateful Company should embrace more job titles. We’re under-appreciating orange.
We’ve included the green critiques, like the classic:
What gets measured gets managed — even when it’s pointless to measure and manage it, and even if it harms the purpose of the organisation to do so
- V. F. Ridgway, 1956But we need to embrace more healthy competition, striving for excellence, even rankings.
one way we can do this is to make more liberal use of titles, and brag on people. @Valerie Daniel is the MANAGING DIRECTOR, and we should have her listed as such in emails and things
What else is healthy orange and how can we transclude it?
What do we already do that is already healthy orange?I want to get a bit concrete here. There is a bunch of work about experiment / survey / psychometric testing design that has all kinds of tools that seem useful here. I’m in no way an expert here, or even barely experienced.... The Relateful Company should embrace more job titles. We’re under-appreciating orange.
We’ve included the green critiques, like the classic:
What gets measured gets managed — even when it’s pointless to measure and manage it, and even if it harms the purpose of the organisation to do so
- V. F. Ridgway, 1956But we need to embrace more healthy competition, striving for excellence, even rankings.
one way we can do this is to make more liberal use of titles, and brag on people. @Valerie Daniel is the MANAGING DIRECTOR, and we should have her listed as such in emails and things
What else is healthy orange and how can we transclude it?
What do we already do that is already healthy orange?I had some long discussions with people like Ellyn and Thea about their disagreement; I think they were still missing the point because the large body of work about coming up with scores, as I understood (or misunderstood it) was more about assigning something that could be... Race and IQ. I recently got dinner at a hole-in-the-wall asian spot with a geneticist named Razib Khan. Over noodles, and with a concerned glance over his shoulder, he admitted that the science is clear: race is absolutely tied to IQ. Jews are the smartest. Pretty much everyone on the continent of Africa is at the bottom.
This fact alone is controversial, but we have to be able to talk about it, and here’s why:
I nodded, and asked:
How many generations does this take to change?
Razib:
As little as three generations. For example, the Egyptians used to be the smartest, but a century of inbreeding knocked them to the bottom. Incest drops IQ by 10 points in the first generation. After that the effect weakens.
This is huge. At first glance, the controversial statement seems like a slamdunk for racists the world over. But dig into the details, and you find out 3 generations is enough to change things—this means that race and IQ are not inherently linked as far as we know, they’re just linked in today’s world, because of today’s policies and systems.
Knowing this could actually help us target where we need to focus our interventions for the next three decades. Let’s get us all up!
I think it’s worth noting here that the original intent of the IQ test was to "… identify those who may need extra help or have learning disabilities …" and if we only used it in this context, it would help identify where systems/behaviors cause disparities, as implied above....