Let me comment further on this topic if I may, while imho, rockets cannot reach space, therefore no Artemis or Apollo missions ever got anywhere near the moon, there are craft in the skies at night that I can see with my night vision camera. Whether or not any of them are in space, there is something up there traveling around in the night sky doing maneuvers unachievable by any kind of known craft, many think they're all drones but I've seen these craft perform aerial maneuvers that defy explanation, zipping around all over the sky, disappearing from sight only to return later, as if suddenly appearing from out of the aether. There's some technology out there that we're not being told about and I have a sneaking suspicion that "they" have developed some kind of anti-gravity craft and with that technology, may be entirely capable of getting off the planet, maybe even getting to the moon or beyond; there is quite simply, so much going on around us that's not being divulged to the general public, something so classified that they've managed to keep it under wraps, for the most part, for decades. It is maddening to think so much is being hidden from us, but for what reason?? I don't think for one minute it has anything to do with national security, as I believe all the nations of the world have been working with full knowledge of what each other has been doing, for a long time and when I speak of the PTB, I'm speaking of a global power structure.