Discussion of border/immigration answers

I have the sense that Vance/Trump probably want to be fairly inhumane in deporting extremely large numbers of people. Various quotes I’ve seen from them have suggested this (though I’d like to fact check myself at some point).

But Vance does a very effective job of sounding more reasonable during the debate on this. Starts with things most people would agree with: secure the border; focus on deporting criminals, etc. E.g. on deporting criminals: that’s a place where perhaps I’d be supportive in extreme cases but where I’d want to be much more humane in minor cases which might be the vast majority of relevant ones. E.g. does getting a speeding ticket make you a criminal?

Noting I have lots of uncertainty and lack of knowledge here. But have the sense that reasonable rhetoric could hide extreme action that I wouldn’t support…