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  • jordan avatar

    Experiment: How is whatever's happening serving the greater good? If we zoom out long enough, we can often see that massive setbacks created foundations for evolution. Eg:

    • The great oxygenation wiped out almost all life on Earth, but also created the atmosphere.
    • The extinction of the dinos paved the way for bigger mammals—and eventually humans.
    • Industrialization put tons of people out of work and polluted like crazy, but coincided with some of the greatest quality of life increases in recorded history
    • In Trump and a Post Truth World, Ken Wilber suggests that Trump’s 2016 win was one manifestation of evolution taking a step backward to correct the way the “Green meme” went unhealthy—because the one thing that Trump was coherent about back then was being anti-pluralistic.

    What’s a thing in the world that you don’t like right now, and think is a huge step backward, that might also be a step forward? How so?

    By design, this is an unverifiable experiment from a third person perspective. Since we can keep zooming out + everything is interconnected, we’ll probably never know for sure, even if we live for thousands of years. 

    But by design, this is verifiable from a first person perspective: Does your experience improve or change in any way by the experiment? How so?

    (note that this doesn't ask you to deny any suffering—such as the horror of the oxygenation event's great extinction, or stop trying to make things better. Like everything, this perspective can be misused. "Everything happens for a reason" is usually dismissive, "if there were a reason for this in the long run, what might it be?" is additive. Like allowing versus expressing, it's not about bypassing the difficulty but rather creating a larger container for it. Freedom comes through acceptance rather than resistance.)

    #TTT 

    TrustTheJourney•...
    I have another perspective on this, and I realize it may not be popular. One thing I’ve learned is that politicians—across the spectrum—often bend the truth. Both the left and the right are part of the same system, and each side has its own narratives....
    politics
    media and journalism
    immigration
    misinformation and disinformation
    public policy and government corruption
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  • as seen on tv•...

    WSJ nails the cost of mass deportations. With a surprising statistic.

    The link below (WSJ – Mass Deportation and Florida Jobs) appeared in the paper’s Saturday/Sunday edition (Feb 7/8). It’s now out from behind the paywall, so everyone can read it. And we should. The jobs bonanza we were promised is nowhere in sight, and will probably never be....
    economics
    immigration
    labor studies
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  • waronthecastlepeaceinthevalley•...

    Anti-ICE protesters rally in Milan ahead of opening ceremony

    Excerpt: " MILAN, Feb 6 (Reuters) - Hundreds of protesters chanted slogans, blew whistles and set off flares at a rally on Friday to oppose the presence in Italy of U.S. immigration agents and the closure of streets ahead of the Milano Cortina Winter Games' opening ceremony....
    politics
    immigration
    protests and demonstrations
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  • T.Ragosta•...

    I'm thankful.

    By working hard and becoming American citizens, my grandparents gave me a gift I can never repay.  The best I can hope for is to leave my grandchildren a country that gives them the same opportunities that I've had in life....
    gratitude
    immigration
    american citizenship
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  • J

    What's in a question...". Here's a scenario...
    I say something. It could be anything but for the sake of argument, "I hope Trump runs for a third term."

    People in hearing range are heard to ask (examples):
       - What do you mean by that?
       - Umm, have you read the Constitution?
       - Why?
       - How do you think that benefits the country?

    My interest... Which, if any, of those questions might be considered an invitation to dialogue? Which might elicit a defensive or angry response? If we accept a premise that Our country is being damaged by polarization and hostility, how do we engage with one another to explore the why's behind opinions held? What is your base response when someone asks you a question?

    I have observed what I think is shift in definition (or perception) regarding the purpose of a question. To some extent, I think the use and nature of questions has been placed in a negative light. And, that is hazardous to Our ability to gather and analyze information as well as Our opportunities communicate about important societal issues.

    At a base level, how much does tone of voice matter? Does who asked -how they look- matter? Does the choice of words affect your response? The time or place? How much of your response is determined primarily by how you interpret the question versus how the questioner might have intended it?

    Additional circumstances where I wonder about questions and what they mean or do...
       - How often does a politician who represents you ask your opinion before voting on a matter?
       - Are public polls and surveys able to collect opinion fairly? (I.E., Shouldn't there generally be a "None of the above" option for almost everything you've ever been asked? Or, data about who is taking the poll and for what purpose? I am tired of being forced to answer in a way that defines my 'social box' incorrectly.)
       - Particularly with regard to evaluation of programs, we are asked to place ourselves in various classifications. Income, race, faith, address, age - you know what I mean. These "metrics" are quantitative and objective but... Who decides on the ranges?; Who decides on definitions? When we are measuring whether the quality of someones life has improved, do we need more 'humetrics'?

    Have I perhaps managed to kindle curiosity in a dark corner ? :-) It seems to me that this is worth thinking and talking about. It may be part of healing and finding our individual agency to affect the world. It might also be a part of solving problems in a way that promotes positive-sum outcomes. 

    Sheri Jene•...
    iN RESPONSE... You are correct in that Minnesota does require a person to carry ID.  After the fact it was reported that he did not have ID. However there isn't any evidence he was asked for ID before the takedown and subsequent shooting by two agents and audio forensics depict...
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    law enforcement
    immigration
    forensic science
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  • ColbyBalch•...

    Deportations in Dominican Republic

    This morning, on my drive home after dropping my boys off at school, I saw a pickup truck full of Dominican soldiers stopping various vehicles, mostly public transport, looking for dark-skinned Haitians to arrest and deport....
    ethics
    human rights
    social justice
    immigration
    military spending
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  • Honey Mama•...

    White immigration

    White people from America moving to, say, Costa Rica or Mexico as expats is - fundamentally - for the same core reason that Latinos immigrate to America. #DeepTakes

    sociology
    cultural studies
    immigration
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  • timpclark.88@gmail.com•...

    Thoughts from a lefty

    As someone more on the left, it’s always depressing to watch these debates. Both candidates pro war, ignoring Israeli aggression, both want to drill more fossil fuels—which will drive climate change regardless of how much windmills you build, and lies about immigration....
    politics
    climate change
    immigration
    us foreign policy
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  • dara_like_sara avatar

    fact checking: fentanyl situation. how are folks receiving Vance’s claim that Kamala Harris’ border policy allowed more fentanyl into the country?

    i don’t know much about this topic

    brianSA•...

    I don’t think that’s quite true. Harris was appointed the Immigration Czar by Biden, though they deny it now once their policies didn’t work.

    politics
    government
    immigration
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  • dara_like_sara avatar

    fact checking: fentanyl situation. how are folks receiving Vance’s claim that Kamala Harris’ border policy allowed more fentanyl into the country?

    i don’t know much about this topic

    thehunmonkgroup•...
    Well it’s not her policy, it’s Biden’s. Not a fan of that not-so-subtle trick. I did look at a graph of illegal immigrant crossings, and it’s WAY up since Biden took office, although it’s unclear to me how much Biden’s specific policies have impacted crossings, which I think...
    us politics
    drug policy
    immigration
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  • dara_like_sara avatar

    fact checking: fentanyl situation. how are folks receiving Vance’s claim that Kamala Harris’ border policy allowed more fentanyl into the country?

    i don’t know much about this topic

    Joanna•...

    There has been an increase in immigration. And it seems likely that this would also result in more stuff coming in.

    sociology
    economics
    immigration
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  • jhrosenberg@gmail.com•...

    Discussion of border/immigration answers

    I have the sense that Vance/Trump probably want to be fairly inhumane in deporting extremely large numbers of people. Various quotes I’ve seen from them have suggested this (though I’d like to fact check myself at some point)....
    human rights
    politics
    law enforcement
    immigration
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