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  • dara_like_saraSA•...

    What outcome do you hope for?

    I was on a call for the last hour talking with a friend about supporting a vision he has.  At the end of the call, he asked "what are you hoping to get out of this?" I found the question really hard to answer in a way that makes any sense at all....
    personal development
    psychology
    spirituality
    career and life purpose
    self discovery
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  • UpTrust Admin avatar

    AMA with Ali Beiner. Wednesday 2/4 at 11:00 AM CT

    Kainos host Alexander Beiner exploring cultural sensemaking around psychedelics, popular culture, philosophy, psychology, alternative economics, and spirituality.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IlAi-r2kZk
    jordanSA•...

    this reminds me of the opening of A Course in Miracles: "The opposite of love is fear, but what is all-encompassing can have no opposite."

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  • jordan avatar

    Jeffry Martin, Jeffrey Epstein, and high decoupling. some messy thoughts, would love y'all's takes

    I. Jeffrey Martin tried to sell “enlightenment” to Jeffrey Epstein for $10 million USD.

    More importantly: In the DOJ emails, he asks for “..a few (legal age) slave girls of my own choosing, in the event that at least some of your press coverage is accurate... ; )

    But how can we trust Epstein? There's not enough evidence in there in this case... to quote Marco Beneteau “most people who know [Martin] think that the "slave-girl" quote was fabricated / injected by Epstein as it's out of character for Martin. This is possible and even likely given that Epstein was positioning himself as a professional blackmailer. There is also no reason for Martin, a serious businessman, to compromise himself in this way with a known criminal.”

    Martin’s emails are shady AF, but to me (and most) Martin always seemed shady. That doesn’t discredit the genuine contributions he’s made; it does point to us being incredibly discerning about what he says and where it comes from.

    It also points to whatever Martin is teaching being pretty weird; the concept of enlightenment is weird and sketch, so it asks us to be more discerning still.

    II. High decoupling is an idea that you can separate the pieces from the whole.

    Eg: MLK can be a womanizer yet still a civil rights role model. It’s super necessary for science to figure out causality by separating variables, and it’s helpful for the pursuit of truth since the key evolution into 3rd person objective, rational thinking is that stuff exists outside of its context. Newton had to actually prove this about physics—before him people genuinely didn’t know if gravity operated differently in America v Europe v the moon.

    A person could be enlightened and charge $10 Million for it. A person could have useful tips and not be "enlightened" whatever that means. A bunch of other decouples...

    III. Wholeness must include fragmentation to be whole

    I talk a lot about seeing wholes, interconnectivity, and relationships, which one might think of as low-decoupling, or re-coupling, or something. But just like surrender includes your desire, the world being neutral means you get to fully engage in it, true wholeness includes parts and division. Your limited self-concept can’t threaten how much people love you, and decoupling can’t threaten the universe’s inherent interconnectivity. High decoupling and low decoupling are like directions on a circle -if you take either far enough the meet on the other side. eg:

    • decoupling for love: consider a toddler behaving like a little dictator. Decoupling rather than seeing them as one thing might increase the love
    • decoupling for truth: eg pulling what's good and useful from Martin's "research" and throwing out the rest
    fra•...
    https://lissarankinmd.substack.com/p/spiritual-teacher-jeffrey-martin Good. I see one problem for me is "whom I trust?" Only myself, because in these spaces I see so much is rotten. Really. Even the best ones. I disagree with every single one at least on a couple of points....
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    What makes learning about the ultimate easier in the modern era, and what makes it harder?: Integralists

    The spectrum In 1977, Ken Wilber proposed something either outrageously presumptuous or quietly obvious: the world’s wisdom traditions are not in contradiction. They are describing different stages of the same developmental sequence....
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    integral theory
    religious studies
    comparative religion
    perennial philosophy
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    What makes learning about the ultimate easier in the modern era, and what makes it harder?: Modernists

    Diana A woman named Diana sat in a therapist’s office in Portland and said the sentence that begins a thousand modern spiritual journeys: "I think I need to meditate." She had left the Southern Baptist church at twenty-two after her pastor said her depression was a failure of...
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    What makes learning about the ultimate easier in the modern era, and what makes it harder?: Religious traditionalists

    Thirty years under the Rule Our abbot entered the monastery at twenty-three. He has prayed the same liturgical hours, in the same chapel, with the same brothers, through three decades of silence and chanting and manual labor and the slow erosion of every spiritual fantasy he...
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    What is enlightenment?: Developmentalists

    Same path In 1977, Ken Wilber published The Spectrum of Consciousness and made everyone uncomfortable. He took the contemplative traditions seriously as developmental maps — not metaphors, not artifacts, but sequences with directionality that could be tested against the ego...
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    What is enlightenment?: Contemplative traditionalists

    Ordinary mind Joshu asked Nansen: "What is the Way?" Nansen said: "Ordinary mind is the Way." Joshu asked: "Should I try to direct myself toward it?" Nansen said: "If you try to direct yourself toward it, you move away from it." Ninth-century China....
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    AMA with John Mackey. Wednesday, 2/11 at 2:00 PM CT

    We’re here to talk about A Course in Miracles, and The Disappearance of the Universe, and how we can help each other home with the practices of true forgiveness.

    John Mackey is well known as the co-founder of Whole Foods (and CEO for 44 years), innovator in Conscious Capitalism (including creating billion dollar company while changing food systems for the better, implementing executive salary caps, radical health care and employee wellness programs, etc,) and most recently founder of Love.life - a cutting edge medicine, nutrition, fitness, center w/ pickleball, cafe. 

     

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5GVmvrPQgD4
    Seth Dellinger•...
    Jordan, this was awesome. I was busy when you went live, but had this bookmarked because I started reading A Course In Miracles at the end of last year after our conversation and also seeing you quote it elsewhere. I'm currently on Day #100 and loving it!...
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  • Redelman•...

    https://livingartswisdom.substack.com/p/recognize-and-share-your-luminous

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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

    Elohimists.com
    curiousdwk•...
    I subscribe to the passage in the Gospels, by Jesus, that "the kingdom of god is within you".  God is no "out there" somewhere or "up there" somewhere.  What you need from a god is already within you....
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    AMA with John Mackey. Wednesday, 2/11 at 2:00 PM CT

    We’re here to talk about A Course in Miracles, and The Disappearance of the Universe, and how we can help each other home with the practices of true forgiveness.

    John Mackey is well known as the co-founder of Whole Foods (and CEO for 44 years), innovator in Conscious Capitalism (including creating billion dollar company while changing food systems for the better, implementing executive salary caps, radical health care and employee wellness programs, etc,) and most recently founder of Love.life - a cutting edge medicine, nutrition, fitness, center w/ pickleball, cafe. 

     

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5GVmvrPQgD4
    valerie@relateful.com•...
    I've been reading Disappearance of the Universe and it's beginning to make sense.  It's interesting though...this dream is very real and we are in it....
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  • jordan avatar

    Ordinary Love. An invitation to true wellness culture

    Postmodernity is too egocentric. This includes current “spiritual” trends.

    Here’s what an alternative can look like: Yesterday Dara asked Jason to install a window A/C unit in Val’s room; he came over and did it. Last night a participant shared struggling with a contract at work, and a lawyer in the session volunteered to help her redline it. My sister watches the kids while I help my brother-in-law move their furniture to make room for the new baby. If this doesn’t sound special, that’s the point. You’re already doing this, that’s also the point.

    I’m not writing to admonish us to “get rid” of the “ego”—a particular self-identity*. I think it’s too hard for modern Americans, steeped in a culture of individualism. I love life, people, experience, and I think a good life includes a sense of “me.” Instead, I want to expand the sense of self to go much beyond the concept of “my body, my history” to see the larger whole these are part of. One upshot of this is gratitude, even for what I usually think of as “Jordan’s”—like these thoughts thunk in English. I needed English to think ‘em, so how much are they ‘mine’? 

    Automated & consensual narrative lock-in

    We know that social media exacerbated this. Many studies show narcissism and loneliness increasing faster with mass adoption of social media, especially after 2012. Young kids don’t want to serve as a fireman or doctor anymore, they want to be adored as an influencer (We’re working on this social media problem by launching UpTrust). 

    Now I worry that AI is exponentiating this self-reification trend to unprecedented levels.

    Last week I met four people who were convinced that their personal ChatGPT interface, molding its “personality” to respond based on their unique interactions, was a sentient being. If you think our filter bubbles are bad now, imagine what it’s like when we have 8 billion of them? Each individual’s personal collection of bots reinforcing whatever identity feels special, safe, and comfortable, no matter how limited and delusional?

    There’s nothing wrong with specialness, safety, and comfort, but neither is there anything wrong with ordinariness, risk, and discomfort. Transformation, life, intimacy, and play all demand both. Are we bleaching the color of life in pursuit of maintaining a self? What are we so afraid of that we hide from becoming? Life is transformation. Relating requires and changes our uniqueness. Other people providing friction and challenge—that’s a service, freely given to all at birth.

    Perhaps the trap isn’t narcissism. It’s any reification of identity via any narrative frame, especially spiritual ones, designed to parade as if they’re narrative-free. And the cost is ordinary love.

    Transcend and exclude often means we fall back into less maturity

    I’m still trying to get my mind and language around this, so I’m going to highlight the contrast to see the phenomena more clearly. Does your coach / (AI) therapist / culture / practice help you:

    • Express more gratitude? Become more forgiving? Be more accepting of others’ flaws? “Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court”?
      Or say you should be treated a very particular way (reifying a victim identity?)

    • Build infrastructure that’s super helpful but unsexy? Do things that are good for others without recognition? Feed those who are hungry? Do mundane things for the local whole like pick up trash that’s not yours?
      Or build a marketing funnel that will help you promote yourself and perpetuate the ‘me’ ‘me’ ‘me’ cycle? 

    • Love your friends and family better? Accept being misunderstood? Show up to their events and support their successes? Take care of them when they’re sick? Be more generous? Patient, humble, respectful, loyal, temperate? Maintain commitments regardless of feelings?
      Or emphasize your in-the-moment desire above all else, calling impulsivity and self-centeredness ‘surrender’?

    • Develop boundaries as expressions of love and connection? Face challenges with grace and acceptance? Take responsibility for your pain, flaws, mistakes, shadows, and limitations?
      Or use "boundaries" to control others and force them to change according to your preferences?

    • Admit ignorance, learn from criticism, hold your beliefs lightly, speak simply about profound experiences, work steadily without needing dramatic breakthroughs, notice your defensive patterns without performatively announcing them, contribute to social understanding, love others as they are?
      Or position yourself as having rare insights to help others transcend their limitations through your techniques and advice?

    This list can go on; I wish I could speak to the connection and community side more but I’m stuck in my own bias. 

    I’m not saying it’s easy, we of course need guides, mentors, feedback–it’s so complicated! Nor am I saying its special—all of this has been said for thousands of years! I’m trying to highlight a healthy version of one pole and unhealthy versions of another on purpose to get more clarity on where we are deeply unbalanced today. This is especially true of ‘spiritual’ hotbeds like San Francisco, Boulder, Ubud, Amsterdam. Austin is somewhat counterbalanced by its Texas-ness—cowboy culture still emphasizes family, duty and sacrifice to a greater good beyond ‘you’. Plus our immigrants are a little more integrated.

    What’s up with me?

    Anyway, I ask myself: Why do I care?

    Sure, practices purported to transcend ego instead teach self-absorption. But it’s in the name— "personal growth" and “self-help.” What’s got me?

    Because I’m guilty of all of this. 

    Sometimes despite my best efforts, I’ve taught people to ignore their minds in order to stay with the sensations of their bodies (rather than integrating them); to ‘surrender’ to their feelings-in-the-moment and ignore larger consequences or agreements and the greater wholes that hold them. I’ve corrected a lot of these mistakes, made amends, even evolved the practice and training. Yet I still can’t quite escape the selfishness of ‘wellness’ culture. Prime example: a couple years ago we hosted a “Give Fest” at the Relateful Studio in Austin with a reverse silent auction, where people bid on what they wanted to give to a local nonprofit. Even my wife and I didn’t follow through on what we ‘won.’

    Let us redefine wellness and self-development. Let us change the metrics to gratitude, forgiveness, acceptance of our and others' flaws, showing up for family, friendship, and our greater communities. Let us celebrate unglamorous, unwitnessed interdependence.

    Three alternatives: what is it all for?

    Burning Man is actually a great example of a positive alternative. The economy is about gifting—and after your first year, it’s well known that to get the most out of the experience, you need to give. People camp in communities, build massive art projects and cars together, and give them freely without credit, burning them at the end. It’s all about creating for the whole, being present with each other in non-transactional relating. All of this disrupts the self-reification loops in such a way that people are consistently shaken from long held encumbrances, and come out of the desert transformed. I say this as an admirer but not a fanatic—I went to Black Rock City in 2012 and 2014, and then didn’t go again.

    Relatefulness

    Relatefulness, especially in Level Up ⬆’s Leadership Program and the The Relateful Coaching Training, does not fall into these problem nearly as badly as almost every other community I’ve seen. We claim our directionality of truth + love. This means the personal can’t be number one—individual expression and growth is always in service of something greater. Of course we make mistakes. (For example, the Level Up structure highlighted individualism. We’ll be returning to a cohort-only model this Fall—more on that in a future email). But we’ve done a really good job focusing on being with what is, especially relationally and communally. 

    We don’t abandon compassion and honesty in service of making sure people feel seen, heard, cultivating a ‘safe space,’ or maintaining instagram-defined-trauma-therapy-norms. This is hard, because I not only want people to feel seen, heard, safe, and heal, I think it’s crucial for a healthy community and for the true pursuit of truth and love. It just needs to be in service of love/truth, rather than an end unto itself. It needs to come authentically from the moment, not as a script or status signal or performance. We run into generative friction embracing the seeming paradox of this polarity all the time, and it is incredibly demanding of our facilitators to walk this tight rope. It demands that we are always changing, individually as leaders, as a community, and even the practice itself. Even our coaching teaches revealing identity commitments, inherently making the self an object in a larger self that can choose “yes” or “no” to, versus reinforcing a self and an existing worldview.

    And even as we teach people how to meta-narrate as a way to witness and disembed themselves from unconscious habits that have been running them, we recognize that the compulsion to name and categorize experiences—spiritual or otherwise—often becomes a form of conceptual possession, serving self preservation rather than self-transformation.

    Frozen
    The Disney movie Frozen shows another fantastic example of a healthy alternative. (I just watched the Broadway version with my kids this weekend, so it's fresh on my mind). 

    In my view, the critical part of Elsa moving from “Conceal don’t reveal” to “Let it Go” is not about self-expression, it's about surrendering the need to control, particularly others’ reactions to her true nature. As a result she loves what she previously saw as her shame (her ice power), an identity transformation that eliminates the victim-perpetrator dynamic entirely and unlocks her ability to use her power for everyone’s benefit.

    But of course the most incredible part is reframing the trope of “true love”—not just from romantic to familial love, but about the act of loving others. The secret that ‘healed’ Anna’s frozen heart wasn’t receiving ‘true love’ from someone else, but her performing a selfless act of true love herself. Even better, she truly loved the one who accidentally caused the curse in the first place, in a show of what I like to call “true forgiveness”—there was never any threat to love’s presence in the first place. So in some real sense, nothing to forgive. Family love, particularly love that endures despite harm, represents the ordinary, unglamorous love that doesn't depend on worthiness or reciprocity (romantic love ideally is the same, but often feels like something we need to earn or could lose). 

    Oh and there’s the wonderful Olaf, as a projection of the best of Anna and Elsa’s innocence in childhood. And I love that it’s not spiritual :)
     

    True spirituality isn’t spiritual (and is definitely not about ‘me’)

    As usual, I’m writing this for myself as much as anyone. Can I experience states of fundamental wellbeing, help others, and act with virtue and integrity without any internal or external narration / validation? Without needing it to be spiritual development? Who would be accumulating spiritual experiences or qualities anyway, and what would they be good for if not to benefit the whole of existence?

    Can all of my mastery lead me to being completely ordinary? Not needing actions to be recognized as anything, even by myself, I respond to what's in front of me without overlaying (spiritual) significance.

    And can I not do that for the sake of development either? If I notice that self-referential trap, may I love myself in it and move on with the normal good stuff of living. The self-referential loop is infinite if I engage it.

    Instead, let me show up lovingly for the sake of itself, because that’s what love does.

     

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    *Although that is a path that can work for some people like Byron Katie or Eckhart Tolle, it’s a hard one to “do” because the will that acts needs to eventually be transcended. In both of their histories, their dissolution was more done to them.

     


    (this will be sent out to my #TTT email in a couple of days, but UpTrust gets the early exclusive ;) )

    Sarah Sirena•...
    Thanks for this Jordan! I totally agree on bringing back a humble appreciation of spirituality in the mundane, and that an inflated sense of preciousness and specialness and hyper - "sacredness" has prevailed in the wellness/self help world/ spirituality world....
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  • SupaUglyTV•...

    BIBLE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY

    BIBLE SCRIPTURE OF THE DAY (Read The Entire Chapter For Complete Understanding) Friday - (02/06/2026) (www.biblegateway.com)  "Whoever pursues righteousness & unfailing love will find life, righteousness, & honor..."  - Proverbs 21:21  #SupaUglyTV #PraiseTheLord  #JesusChrist...
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  • jordan avatar

    Are spiritual teachers more narcissistic on average? Our best guess at infant phenomenology is that we come out of the womb experiencing a pre-differentiated oneness. As babies, we assume the world revolves around us because for all we can tell, the world is us. We have no way to empathize bc we can’t take another perspective. This theory underpins a lot of psychological claims, like “we internalized our parents’ fighting, assuming it was about us when it really wasn’t.” 

    I claim this isn’t an elevated spiritual state, because we haven’t developed individuality yet. We need to have something before we can transcend it. Ego collapse and ego-transcendence both involve a different sense of self from the adult norm, so they’re easy to confuse without a developmental distinction. Both provide a sense of certainty, and rely on non-linguistic knowing, making it harder to recognize the distinctions.

    To the extent this is true, it makes me wonder: Are spiritual teachers more narcissistic on average?? (some evidence points that way, but no rigorous studies exist). Can they differentiate between the state of pre-differentiated and post-differentiated union? And if they can’t, how often are experiences labeled “union,” or “nonduality” actually literal infantile regressions? If so, wouldn’t these teachers exhibit the same self-centered orientation of an infant?

    Plus, selection effects: narcissistic individuals are drawn to roles with authority, attention, and reduced accountability structures. Communities where charisma is more relevant than independent reviews of competence (versus accounting or Nascar), and states of attainment are categorically unverifiable by the students (versus massage or writing fiction).

     

    Distinguishing infant oneness from transcendence

    This doesn’t mean all spiritual teachers or leaders are “narcissistic” even in a colloquial sense, just higher risk. And it’s an inherent epistemological risk in finding someone who’s better than you at something you haven't accessed, using frameworks you haven't developed, verified by experiences you can't reproduce (yet).

    So best to encourage critical thinking, and introspect on some of the checks I have for myself (and others) about myself and anyone I look to for guidance: Is my spiritual practice increasing my need for special treatment, entitlement, surrounding me with people that never challenge my views? Am I always turning criticism around—saying it's “your karma,” “your projection,” “your lesson”, “your drama triangle stuff”?” Am I telling others what’s true about them without acknowledging my projection (ironically), justifying boundary violations since it’s all illusory, calling my emotional reactivity "authenticity," calling others’ reactivity attachment?

    Or do I laugh at myself, and the inevitable foibles I engage to maintain the sense of self I’m laughing at? Can I laugh at any so-called “spiritual attainment”? Do I truly not need special treatment—do I wipe the toilets and empty the trash like everyone else? Am I able to hold many different perspectives at once, including “unity” and my uniqueness? Do I maintain appropriate boundaries while experiencing interconnection? Is my ethical behavior consistent across contexts?

    Mo Jeffreys•...

    It depends on how you define spirituality, it isn’t one size fit all.

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  • Myra avatar

    Spiritual Nutrients. What is your recipe for establishing / maintaining a durable spiritual life? What daily practices  - other than prayer - serve you best?

    I love music, vibration and sound, as a means of frequency alignment with Source. Being creative in ANY way; day-dreaming; writing... and art... (you get the picture)!

    www.SOulMotivated.com
    Mo Jeffreys•...

    How do you define spirituality?

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  • TruthTreaty99999•...

    I'm a higher being trapped in an avatar

    What a funny interface to meet my friends in a world like this one still shaking off it's shadows. I love y'all. It's gonna be OK 

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  • Myra•...

    Spiritual Nutrients

    What is your recipe for establishing / maintaining a durable spiritual life? What daily practices  - other than prayer - serve you best? I love music, vibration and sound, as a means of frequency alignment with Source. Being creative in ANY way; day-dreaming; writing......
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    AMA with Jeffrey Ladish. Wednesday 2/4 at 2:00 PM CT

    Executive director of Palisade Research; studying AI loss of control risks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfhq3r7Cz0
    jordanSA•...

    do you think the "bliss attractor" would have been prayer/jesus instead of meditation/nonduality if the staff were all based in georgia or something? 

    (or rather, what do you make of this?)

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    AMA with Rob Miles on AI Safety. Wednesday, 2/4 at 1:00pm CT

    AISafety.info founder has spent years telling the world about risk posed by strong AI.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tYqqb6AjTM
    JulieI•...

    Spiritual agents? Agent avatars? Embedded AI? (Hey! I like that last one! Solves a lot of the problems!)

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