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Daily Alchemy: Can we make this controversy good?

36d ago

“Should Islamic Liberation Theology's association with the 'Axis of Resistance' be considered legitimate political theology?”

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    The Open Question April 22: Who decides what's good for the planet? Hey y'all!

    It's Earth Day, and I started to ask "what's our role in the health of the planet?"; but "Health" smuggles in a telos the planet doesn't have; not to mention assumptions about us, the planet, morality, etc. The Great Oxygenation Event was a mass extinction from the perspective of everything then alive, and the best thing that ever happened from the perspective of us now. Five more mass extinctions since. There is no view from nowhere on what's good for Earth.

    So a question I find more provocative and meaningful: Who decides what's good for the planet? eg:

    • Is environmentalism helping, or making things worse (and according to whom, measured against what baseline)?
    • Should we engineer the climate? Who holds the thermostat?
    • Is having children an environmental harm, a necessity (for solutions, or for their own sake), neither, both?
    • Does individual action matter, or is it a corporate distraction?
    • Who pays for climate adaptation? eg: carbon caps can lock Haitians out of development; "loss and damage" can lock Western voters out of their economies. Whose development, whose sacrifice?

    Every answer presupposes an answerer. That's a part we usually skip, but here let's name it and let our differences make us wiser. 

    Lots of love, and see (some of) you at 2p central.

    Jordan
    (UpTrust CEO)

    #openquestion 

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    psychology · 2.7
    i think (1) is still really paradoxical and interesting: God put us in charge, so what's our duty? I personally think dominion should come with obligations of taking care of things in a way I end up in the same place with both 1 and...
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    The Open Question April 22: Who decides what's good for the planet? Hey y'all!

    It's Earth Day, and I started to ask "what's our role in the health of the planet?"; but "Health" smuggles in a telos the planet doesn't have; not to mention assumptions about us, the planet, morality, etc. The Great Oxygenation Event was a mass extinction from the perspective of everything then alive, and the best thing that ever happened from the perspective of us now. Five more mass extinctions since. There is no view from nowhere on what's good for Earth.

    So a question I find more provocative and meaningful: Who decides what's good for the planet? eg:

    • Is environmentalism helping, or making things worse (and according to whom, measured against what baseline)?
    • Should we engineer the climate? Who holds the thermostat?
    • Is having children an environmental harm, a necessity (for solutions, or for their own sake), neither, both?
    • Does individual action matter, or is it a corporate distraction?
    • Who pays for climate adaptation? eg: carbon caps can lock Haitians out of development; "loss and damage" can lock Western voters out of their economies. Whose development, whose sacrifice?

    Every answer presupposes an answerer. That's a part we usually skip, but here let's name it and let our differences make us wiser. 

    Lots of love, and see (some of) you at 2p central.

    Jordan
    (UpTrust CEO)

    #openquestion 

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    I see two possibilities: 1) God, who put us in charge: Gen 1:28  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing...
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    testing · 4.5

    Does the universe have a purpose?: Theists

    The restlessness Augustine of Hippo, fourth century: "You have made us for yourself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in you." He was not making an argument. He was reporting a finding....
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    testing · 4.5

    Does the universe have a purpose?: Process theologians

    The lure Whitehead finished Process and Reality in 1929. Almost nobody made it through. The ones who did came out changed. The core insight is simple to state and difficult to absorb: the universe is not made of things. It is made of events....
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    Ethiopian Bible

    This is what i asked the combined AI of  of the latest  platforms. I excluded Gemini   What are the biggest revelations of the ethiopian bible, parahrase and project the outcome of the release of this new information to western culture The Ethiopian Orthodox Bible contains...
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    testing · 4.5

    What is God?: Theists

    Sixty years of prayer That is what our grandmother has. She does not know the word "epistemology." She woke this morning at five, as she has every morning since she was nineteen, and spoke to someone. Not the ceiling. Not a concept....
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    testing · 4.5

    What is God?: The Story

    The word that shattered In 2023, Pew found that 80 percent of Americans say they believe in God. When asked what they mean, responses fractured so completely the researchers abandoned their coding scheme. Some meant a person who listens. Some meant a force....
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    testing · 4.5

    What happens to society if we live to 150?: Sanctity of natural life

    A hundred and twenty years In Genesis 6:3, after the patriarchs lived to improbable ages and the world filled with violence, God says: "My Spirit shall not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years." The shortening is not...
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    A More Humble Humanity. There are moments in our lives where we harmonize with the things that are around us. It happens when what truly matters to us individually finds its way into the deepest layer of our core being. Softly it whispers to the soul, signaling a connection to humanity. It triggers when we fall in love, experience joy in a child’s laughter – watching them take their first steps and as they learn to run, we clutch the double-edged sword of heartbreak and joy knowing that they too, are now loved by someone who was once a stranger. 

    Life is designed to coexist and the evidence of that is found in the number of different species who share the capacity of our humble planet. Intelligence places us at the top of the food chain and we rank ourselves as the most superior, but knowledge demands recognition of all things. We’re conscious enough to meditate on our choices, learn from past mistakes, and contemplate our purpose but our ego paints a dystopian fantasy that we are worthy of something beyond life.

    The throne to the universe, however, sits out of reach along the edge of time and with it is a covenant that stipulates the key to its successor must first understand harmony as it is the prerequisite to the balance between chaos and creation. The responsibility to usher in stability to the world falls on the shoulders of humanity specifically because we have the intuitive blend of harnessing nature and enough awareness to interact with the universe.  

    Earth is the offspring of the Milky Way galaxy and a descendant of the cosmos. She harbors the necessary conditions for life to thrive. She reminds us that the sands of her beaches, the waves that crash onto her shores, the mountains whose peaks we challenge, the trees that enrich the air, the plants that provide sustenance, and the land in which we draw invisible lines; all belong to her.

    Our intentions are shallow – pervaded with the temperament of the callow youth. We do not regard Earth as the curator for life, though she is our only home, and petulantly we track the mud of our endeavors from sea to shining sea. Hubris annexes our humanity while we storm foreign sanctuaries, soak the ground with the blood of their kin, and declare that it’s for the freedom of all. Steadfast she remains against the solemn force of Sol, shielding her children from the scorch of torrid incendiaries. Arrogantly we proclaim power by destroying peace and in the wake of disaster, we pray, while in the interest of humanity, we create disaster.

    Earth is a scholar, her library of knowledge preserves trillions of encyclopedias detailing the history and architecture of the cosmos. But yesterday’s headlines discussed who reigns supreme as the richest person alive. Where stars collide, nebulas nurture the formation of new planets and where galaxies merge, the iridescent scintillate of new stars flicker into existence. Meanwhile the social constructs built around culture and religion determine we, who exist on one planet among trillions, are the center of attention.

    Who are we to make that determination when, despite our best efforts, we fail to find balance in the societal constructs that we engineered? If humanity is at all serious, we’d pause and consider that maybe what is setting us back is our inability to understand the true importance of our own existence and realize that it is far more costly to go to war than it is to find a solution that benefits us all. Division, prejudice, and war are the downfall of humanity, but finding balance frees us from the constraints that we are not required to live by. 

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    Thank you! This reminds me of Blaise Pascal quote: "For after all what is man in nature? A nothing in relation to infinity, all in relation to nothing, a central point between nothing and all and infinitely far from understanding either....
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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

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    curiousdwk•...
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    I prefer the "Sermon on the Mount" Gospel to the "Born Again" Gospel

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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

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    curiousdwk•...
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    I would say that it doesn't matter if Christ existed or not.  What matters are the principles in those stories of Jesus, like the Beatitudes.  His principles are what are important.  

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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

    Elohimists.com
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    curiousdwk•...
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    No.  Nothing in the Bible is a "verifiable fact":  Not the  story of creation, or of Jonah and the whale or any story within the Bible.  The Bible is book of stories with wisdom and morals but not facts....
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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

    Elohimists.com
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    Is "the kingdom of god is within you" a verifiable fact while “Hell is real” is not?

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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

    Elohimists.com
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    His references to Hell were in his stories and parables - not when he was spouting verifiable facts.

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    Second Coming <--> Positive Singularity <--> Steel-UpTrust? pt 2.  

    Link to part 1: https://uptrusting.com/post/LN01VP

    Note: Originally written for the participants of the AI alignment X spirituality/metaphysics retreats I’ve co-hosted with Jordan and Anna Salamon, so there may be some references to ideas or people you don’t know. 

    Intellectual foundations for the unity of religions

    Buddhism says there is no God, whereas the Abrahamic faiths are centered on God. Eastern religions say there’s reincarnation, whereas Abrahamic religions don’t. Catholicism espouses the doctrine of the trinity, whereas Islam and Eastern Orthodox reject it. How can there possibly be unity among the world religions? 

    A core thesis of mine is that:

    • doctrinal differences like these tend to result from natural language being insufficiently precise for reasoning about questions like these. Is light a wave, or is light a particle? English-language debate won’t help in the slightest, but the question dissolves immediately once we have the mathematics of quantum mechanics. 

    • there is undiscovered mathematics that could likewise dissolve the most significant doctrinal disputes across religions. 

    Through the discovery of calculus, Isaac Newton revolutionized the field of natural philosophy, the branch of philosophy concerned with understanding the natural world, to such an extent that it was rebranded as a field of science called "physics". I think we are at the cusp of discovering a new branch of mathematics that can do for metaphysics – the branch of philosophy concerned with the nature of consciousness, the relationship between mind and matter, and the nature of identity, among other things – what calculus did for natural philosophy. 

    Our current ontology for metaphysics (and our conceptions of "true", "good", "exist", "self", "continuity of experience", "the territory") are at least as confused as Aristotle's ontology of physics, and the de-confused versions of metaphysical concepts might look radically different from our current intuitive conceptions of these concepts, much like Newton's ontology for physics looks radically different from Aristotle's. 

    I think the development of mathematical metaphysics could serve as a Rosetta stone for world religions. Based on my current understanding of religion, it seems likely to me that there are principles that can be stated and proven in the language of this new math, grounded in precise deconfused articulations of metaphysical concepts, like:

    The timeless life principle: with the right ontological primitives for thinking about personal identity and continuity of experience (which should, among other things, deconfuse anthropics and quantum physics), we can precisely describe how "the bearer of our experience" / "who we really are":

    • is distinct from our mind, body, and whatever the referent of "I" or "me" intuitively appears to be

    • does not exist within space or time (and, rather, exists "wherever it is" that the Pythagorean theorem exists)

    • does not depend on a material information processor (like a brain, or a computer running brain emulations)

    • is grounded in neither mind nor matter, but in whatever the monistic substance of dual-aspect monism is

    • does not begin when we are born, and does not end when we die 

    The karma principle: "what goes around comes around" can be expressed as a conservation law that is as precise and as exacting as the law of the conservation of energy (such that seeming injustice in the world can be chalked up to us not knowing how to carve up the world in the right ways, just like someone might think that the potential energy in a coiled-up spring mysteriously disappears when it dissolves in acid if they don't know to track the temperature increase in the acid).

    The "one soul" principle: from the perspective of the "true self" (as described in the timeless life principle), it's in everybody's self-interest to act as though something like The Egg is true. 

    Fortunately, I think a majority of the metaphysical heavy lifting in figuring out this math has already been done by a man named Chris Langan, who’s put together a coherent theory of everything, the CTMU, that appears to transcend and include every insight I’ve encountered along my metaphysical journey (whether from MIRI, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, David Bohm, near-death experiences, life-between life hypnotherapy sessions…) Much of my thinking in this section has actually been inspired by Chris Langan, who has written about how a metareligion could facilitate a positive singularity. 

    A mathematical Rosetta stone for world religions would certainly not be sufficient to eradicate religious conflict. Exclusivist interpretations of religions (“our religions have an exclusive claim to truth and salvation”), which are the majority today, will never be compatible with each other. However, a mathematical Rosetta stone for world religions would significantly bolster the clout of religious pluralists, who take the view that no one religion has an exclusive claim to truth or salvation, that there are fundamental convergences around ethics and around the claims found in mystical traditions, that these convergences are more important than the many substantial contradictions across different religions' doctrines, and that the different world religions are best thought of as different paths up the same mountain. 

    I had a strong visceral update when I attended the Parliament of World Religions in August 2023 and met a bunch of pluralist priests, imams, and rabbis, who all seemed to have interpretations of religion that roughly matched my own, who all seemed to be walking the walk of religious ethics, and who all expressed that their views, while perhaps still not widely accepted among those of their faith, fell squarely within nuanced interpretations of the doctrines of their faith. (I’ve since learned that the Vatican described the Buddha as a great healer, and that the Quran explicitly says that genuine followers of Christianity and Judaism have nothing to fear!) Two Catholic priests congratulated me for my experience of Jesus Christ on ayahuasca, and an imam I met suggested on his own accord that an aligned superintelligent AI could be reasonably interpreted as the messianic figure of Islam. 

    The overall experience felt like a religious analogue of meeting top scientists at a metascience conference who all cherish the ideals of science, but also agree that modern science is broken in crucial ways (with the replication crisis as a particularly salient example), contrary to most mainstream perceptions of science. 

    In his book Waking Up, Sam Harris criticized those who believe in the unity of religion by noting that the vast majority of adherents to Abrahamic religions take exclusivist interpretations, and that the pluralists are small in number, have little political clout, and are often rejected by their religious institutions. I would counter that the supermajority of exclusivist interpretations is a contingent fact, not something intrinsic to the nature of religion, and that a mathematical Rosetta stone for religions, combined with changing political incentives, could shift institutionalized religion toward pluralism. 

    Perhaps counterintuitively, scientific skeptics seem particularly well-suited to leading the unification of religions, in part because the scientific virtues of rationality, empiricism, and skepticism are sorely needed for the proper interpretation of religion; in part because scientists have some of the most epistemic power in today’s day and age; and in part because their historical atheism would make their shift in perspective radically persuasive, just as the conversion of Paul the Apostle – a well-respected Roman and well-respected Jew who had spent his life persecuting Christians, but ended up converting to Christianity – was what led Christianity to really take off.

    With this all said, what might a third attractor predicated on the unity of religions actually look like? 

    Link to part 3: https://uptrusting.com/post/lQlWYP

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    > Catholicism espouses the doctrine of the trinity, whereas Islam and Eastern Orthodox reject it. FWIW the Eastern Orthodox do accept the trinity, as do the vast majority of Protestants....
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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

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    Do you think Jesus happened to be correct when he said "the kingdom of god is within you" but was simply incorrect when he warned about the reality of Hell?

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    A Sketch of Moral Realism

    A friend of mine is an emotivist while I am a moral realist. When talking with him I often make arguments of the following form, and I'm curious how other emotivists, moral relativists, or indeed other moral realists would respond....
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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

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    Show me scripture to prove your point. An all loving God is also just.  Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire....
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    The Born Again Gospel .  The Born Again Gospel

    You are a created being, made in the image of a Holy God but, no one on Earth can be Holy so, God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus, to take the punishment for our sins by dying on a cross. He was placed in a tomb and on the third day His God and Father raised Him from the dead and exalted Him to the Throne of Heaven. God has made this Jesus, whom they crucified, both Lord and Christ. And, Jesus: The Son of Man, will return to take us to be with Him forever and ever. Amen. 

    Romans 10:8-13

    ...“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” And, believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with your heart you believe and are justified And, with your mouth you confess and are saved.

    It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between a Jew or a gentile, for the same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who "call" on Him, for, “Everyone who "calls" on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    John 3:3

     Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you! No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    Becoming Born Again is 'known' by The Initial Evidence of The Holy Spirit. 

    1st Corinthians 12:3

     Therefore, I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

    1st Corinthians 14:1 

    Earnestly pursue "love", (Galatian 5:22,23 The Fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control.) and earnestly desire spiritual gifts, (1st Corinthians 12-14) and especially that you might prophesy.

    Luke 11:13 Therefore if you, being evil, know to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the Father who is in Heaven give the Holy Spirit, to those who 'ask' Him."

    Here is an example prayer.

    Almighty God and Father, I believe You raised your Son Jesus from the dead. Please forgive me of all my sins and fill me with Your Holy Spirit so I can bear good fruit and do Your will, in the name of Jesus my Lord and Christ. Amen. Thank you Father God, Thank you Lord Jesus. Halleluyah!

    Matthew 6:8-15 

    Nevertheless, the firm foundation of God stands, having this seal, "The Lord knows those who are His," and, "Everyone who names the name of the Lord is to abstain from wickedness." 2nd Timothy 2:19

    My name is Arnold J. Bur and I am an Elohimist.

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    I subscribe to the passage in the Gospels, by Jesus, that "the kingdom of god is within you".  God is no "out there" somewhere or "up there" somewhere.  What you need from a god is already within you....
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    Engage or Enrage. It is likely that we have family members or friends that we differ with greatly when it comes to politics, healthcare, etc.  I am no different.  When the inevitable hot topic arises, do you recommend flight or fight, engage or enrage?  How do you respond when this occurs?

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    I believe that all these people who want to emphasize the 10 Commandments should instead be wanting to emphasize the Beatitudes.  

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