biology
Everyone is a fisherman, just nobody knows anything about fish...
It's funny how many people claim to be fishermen especially with social media these days all you have to do is take a couple pictures with some fish more often than most people in boom you're considered basically unsponsored professional fisherman and sometimes sponsored.... PLANTS ARE NOT CONSCIOUS
This is my response to a post to a Facebook group post about the idea that plants and animals without brains have consciousness; that plants, and other life forms without nervous systems like ours, might also have it.... looks like I've been wrong and spreading misinformation about the disproven "triune brain theory".
The final—and most important—problem with this mistaken view is the implication that anatomical evolution proceeds in the same fashion as geological strata, with new layers added over existing ones. Instead, much evolutionary change consists of transforming existing parts.
- From https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0963721420917687#con1
I have definitely made this mistake, many many times.
I'm not sure yet the implications of recognizing instead that "all vertebrates possess the same basic brain regions, here divided into the forebrain, midbrain, and hindbrain;" in some ways it seems like a nuance, but in other ways I think it'll shift how I see things and talk about things.
more quotes in case you don't read the article:
neural and anatomical complexity evolved repeatedly within many independent lineages
the correct view of evolution is that animals radiated from common ancestors (Fig. 1c). Within these radiations, complex nervous systems and sophisticated cognitive abilities evolved independently many times. For example, cephalopod mollusks, such as octopus and cuttlefish, possess tremendously complex nervous systems and behavior (Mather & Kuba, 2013), and the same is true of some insects and other arthropods (Barron & Klein, 2016; Strausfeld, Hansen, Li, Gomez, & Ito, 1998). Even among nonmammalian vertebrates, brain complexity has increased independently several times, particularly among some sharks, teleost fishes, and birds (Striedter, 1998).
The idea that larger brains can be equated with increased behavioral complexity is highly debatable (Chittka & Niven, 2009).
I'm still learning, but my current sense is that the mechanistic claims are disproven given current understanding of biology and evolution, but the narrative is compelling enough (just like you've said) that it persists.... looks like I've been wrong and spreading misinformation about the disproven "triune brain theory".
The final—and most important—problem with this mistaken view is the implication that anatomical evolution proceeds in the same fashion as geological strata, with new layers added over existing ones. Instead, much evolutionary change consists of transforming existing parts.
- From https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0963721420917687#con1
I have definitely made this mistake, many many times.
I'm not sure yet the implications of recognizing instead that "all vertebrates possess the same basic brain regions, here divided into the forebrain, midbrain, and hindbrain;" in some ways it seems like a nuance, but in other ways I think it'll shift how I see things and talk about things.
more quotes in case you don't read the article:
neural and anatomical complexity evolved repeatedly within many independent lineages
the correct view of evolution is that animals radiated from common ancestors (Fig. 1c). Within these radiations, complex nervous systems and sophisticated cognitive abilities evolved independently many times. For example, cephalopod mollusks, such as octopus and cuttlefish, possess tremendously complex nervous systems and behavior (Mather & Kuba, 2013), and the same is true of some insects and other arthropods (Barron & Klein, 2016; Strausfeld, Hansen, Li, Gomez, & Ito, 1998). Even among nonmammalian vertebrates, brain complexity has increased independently several times, particularly among some sharks, teleost fishes, and birds (Striedter, 1998).
The idea that larger brains can be equated with increased behavioral complexity is highly debatable (Chittka & Niven, 2009).
That book explicitly smashes the triune brain theory. Working from memory here, one of the puzzle pieces in the books is: the growth of these different parts of the brain is turned on and off by chemical signalling and otherwise it's a common architecture - so you can induce... Is having children selfish or selfless? Controversial question/interesting discussion time!
Is having children a selfish or a selfless act?
I'll put my thoughts in comments - would love to hear yours :)
I had a similar response to the first point — the compulsion to procreate is life - it's the least selfish thing one can do. We went from single celled organisms to fish to apes to us because of that compulsion (along with a bunch of other stuff).... Have yall come across "Assembly Theory"?
My first reading is that it's kinda a like a Christopher Alexander process take on what comprises life; eg: "The specific molecules in your body aren’t that old, but the lineage of these objects being reconstructed goes back that far.... "Mom Brain". I was aware before I got pregnant that the "Mom Brain" phenomenon (brain fog, forgetfulness, etc) often has its onset during pregnancy but it has been really fascinating to experience firsthand what this is like sensationally (?) and emotionally. The "Mom Brain" seems to be gradually more and more noticeable and apart from objectively catching myself in more goofy little mistakes I am also noticing the like funny ambiguous itchy feeling that translates into the verbal though "I feel like I'm forgetting something" is becoming more and more common for me. I am a pretty starkly type A person and I am surprised how confronted that part of my identity feels as I make trivial mistakes that feel "out of character" for me - this experience has been so rare for me that I feel really "caught" when it happens and I don't have a script, relationally with others or my self, for handling these brain farts 💨
silver lining: becoming a mother is obviously a huge transition that will entail the death and rebirth of many aspects of my identity - it can't hurt to be getting a taste of that process early on in the second trimester lolI have heard that the “mom brain” phenomenon is actually tied to a really big neurological event that happens where your brain is creating space/attuning to that which matters most and requires, therefore, the most brain matter.... It's too intimidating for men to be men. Alright, here’s one of my most controversial opinions, and I’m gonna try to take the filter off as much as possible:
Feminism has played out as retribution instead of solution. The Barbie movie is an entirely thorough example of what I’m talking about.
You suppressed us, so we’re gonna use any means necessary to take over.
And then they recreated the same imbalance in its opposite.I see most social movements do this too. True solutions to imbalances aren’t fair because they don’t have human-enacted payback.
You suppressed us, so we’re going to move toward balance.
I’ve been spending about 2 years trying to set aside my learned default into my masculine energy (having grown up in highly feminist orange/green) and learn how to root in my feminine. But my feminine longs for a tether to something rooted. Masculine energy feels rooted, solid, grounded, and my feminine very much doesn’t (though it is held by a spacious ok-ness, but it’s so airy it easily gets chaotic when not balanced in connection with a grounded masculine.)
But I’ve had a hell of a time finding grounded healthy masculine men. Many of them can do it for a time, but then flee to an extreme, like angry resentment at one end and non-binary softness at the other end. And I think it’s because the culture has become super aggressive to men who are solidly men.
I agree that these frames are pretty wonky and often misused; I get really annoyed by the way many if not most people use the concept in personal growth culture. Most of the assumptions don’t hold across cultures.... Monogamy v polyamory
Is monogamy better? Is poly better? Is there an overall norm for people, with exceptions? Is it totally pluralistic? Here are some points for monogamy, with some counter points, to convey some of my uncertainty but nevertheless leaning into what I’ve chosen: Point: I don’t know a... Working out & Cortisol, Which exercise method is best? Many conflicting perspectives (often research-backed) exist on the best ways to keep your body healthy.
Do HIIT for cardiovascular health, it’s the best thing for your heart
Do LISS, it’s best for longevity
Don’t do HIIT if you’re stressed out and already have elevated cortisol, as it will elevate your cortisol more, especially if you’re a woman
Focus on slow flowing movements because it’s what our bodies are meant for
Women should lift heavy, it’s the best way to build muscle and protect bone density
Women should do exercise like pilates to build long, lean bodies and keep exercise core focused
These are some of the things I’ve heard across various platforms…Huberman, Attia, My traditional Chinese Medicine dr, and random coaches that I’ve worked with.
What are your beliefs about staying active? Whose ideas do you subscribe to the most? What’s your workout routine?
Yeah I agree about the payoff—I kinda want to say "do whatever you’ll actually do." I’m not in this domain very much, so I wonder—do these people talk about synergizing the psychological with the biological, the systemic and culture?... Attraction is out of our control, Microbe overlords are controlling our actions. So, I watched this documentary on Netflix last night, which reignited my interest in the gut microbiome.
I’m connecting dots between what we’re learning about how the gut biome impacts mood and actions with the elusive nature of attraction.
During my Sunday Relateful Flow session, someone said,
I’m learning that trying to understand someone gets in the way of just letting myself be attracted to them.
Research is showing that the gut biome can influence and even potentially create conditions like depression, autism, and obesity.
More research will show that the sense of attraction to others is also influenced by the biome. We have scant data on this now- one study shows that female mice tended to be more attractive mates when they had more diverse gut flora.
So, why does this matter? It makes me think about sitting at the dinner table the other night. Some friends were over with their young child, and he was incessantly eating salt. The kid’s dad said
oh hm he must need salt,
trusting his natural intelligence.My hypothesis is that research will show that we’re attracted to people with the gut bacteria we need more for greater diversity, so our microbes drive us to exchange bodily fluids with them.😏
On the other hand, I guess it’s possible that if you’re overrun with less-than-ideal microbes or less gut biodiversity, then maybe those microbes want to stay in charge, and they’ll lead you to swap fluids with someone whose biome maintains the status quo.
Here’s what I think everyone should do with this information:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230120-how-gut-bacteria-are-controlling-your-brain
1. Eat more fiber and fermented foods. Do this for many months.
2. Once you’ve worked on ensuring you have a diverse microbiome, trust your attraction. If you’re monog, sorry- you need to take up polyamory. Give it a go. For your health. 😜I believe fo any given phenomenon (like attraction), there’s a co-arising of psychological, biological/behavioral, cultural, and systemic factors at play. This is the essence of the "quadrants" aspect of the integral model....