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Daily Alchemy: a question to think on together
105d ago“Was IAI TV right to claim animal-mind studies prove consciousness isn't computation?”
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We have the option to see everything in your life as collaborative; we are scared to say this because we don't want to victim-blame but we're also scared of the possibilities and transcendence that opens up
OK I’ve tried talking about this before and it always feels impossible, but it also feels super important, so here goes, relatively uncensored (meaning super philosophical, my apologies and hope some of you enjoy!): “We have the option to see everything in your life as... I’m curious to what degree you’re aware of your body together with the awareness of the awareness? When I do both at the same time, it feels electrifying, almost convulsive. I experience it as transformational, integrative.... Awareness always is (?)
I resisted writing about this partially because I’m afraid it’s boring, and partially because of the inherent limitations of languaging this stuff, and my own limits, but I’ve found the process extremely helpful for clarifying my own thinking.... yeah i appreciate the invitation; I’m not entirely sure-sometimes I use the heuristic that if i’m seeing the world through the developmental lens at all I’m probably looking through the teal lens, but that seems too simplistic: sometimes I’m using the developmental lens to... Oh also, I liked this article. It points out that there's a gap in Andy's work between extended mind and predictive processing in the realm of "consciousness"... so maybe Andy hasn't actually fully bridged these two concepts yet.... - sass...
If you're up for sharing, I'm curious to hear about what kinds of changes you may have stewarded in your life & how you practically live it & what you value holding onto after becoming familiar with the 7th person perspective you described as pure holonic / logoic consciousness /... You also said that nothing exists in a vacuum, meaning that everything only exists as a relationship, ...no? Which'd mean that consciousness isn't any different from anything else; that it's all just relationships.... - Merrengue...
When I say consciousness “participates,” I’m not treating it as a special substance. I’m treating it as a relational process, like temperature or pressure. You can talk about a molecule, but “temperature” only exists at the level of the system.... - TommyB...
? I'm not following you. Are you denying that parts emerge into wholes? How can you assert that parts "participate" in systems, without also asserting that the parts, themselves are wholes?... - Merrengue...
Who am I?
Truthfully, I am a philosophy nerd and do a lot of thinking about reality, life, consciousness, and ethics. I feel I have a unique perspective of life, and the people who know me confirm this. Not that I intend to leave my perspective in the veil of reputation.... - onWe have the option to see everything in your life as collaborative; we are scared to say this because we don't want to victim-blame but we're also scared of the possibilities and transcendence that opens upby
Thank you for your thoughtful response, Marcello. It seems like at the heart of our discussion is the different assumptions we hold about the nature of reality.... I think there’s some key thing here as to stake for whom—who/what is at stake? Which self? The awake self that’s always already here? Stakes may be real for the ego-self, which I want to appropriately account for, but also account for the bias that that self inevitably always...